Torture scene

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:46 am

I`m planning to make a sceene where the actor is beeing tortured with chemicals by injection - Any tips for what I can do?
(- I mean, I really dont feel like trying to inject water or other liquids into my best friend... ) So, what effects should i use? - fake skin and a platic tube or something like that?

- And do you have any tips for how to "act the pain"?

Passit · Post by **Passit** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:45 am

It all depends on how graphic you want it to be. It would be enough to show the torturer draw the chemical with the syringe, do the classic Ã¢â‚¬Ëœflick the needleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ shot (i.e. the torturer holds up the syringe, deploys a little of the chemical and then flicks the needle as focus switches from the torturers face to the syringe). You could then show him roll up the sleeve of the poor chap and go to jab him and at this point cut to a close up of the tortured guys face firstly jolting with eyes widening and taking a sudden intake of breath then grimacing with pain. You could also incorporate a close up of the syringe being plunged without showing the needle. To make it seem even grittier I would probably do a bit of hand held camera work Ã¢â‚¬â€œ especially for the close up of the actor in pain.

NGFilms03 · Post by **NGFilms03** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:54 am

Put the heating way up, get your actor sweating and have him tense all over and get veins popping up all over his arms and everywhere. Sounds fun - make sure you post it when you're done

WeirdEars · Post by **WeirdEars** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:18 pm

What about using one of those syringes you get in science labs/lessons? Fill it with water with food colouring in it and viola!

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:50 pm

massive muscle contortions would look great. Have the victim topless to see the muscles react. Also have the actor under some sort of real minor discomfort

Jasonrocks · Post by **Jasonrocks** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:35 pm

TIP ON ACTING: To look graphic have him dribble, and shake like theres no tommorrow. If your doing a over 18's film have him swear every like 2 seconds dropping f-bombs and stuff. Thats what he should do to act.

Radiate · Post by **Radiate** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:11 am

You shouldn't have him shake like crazy, that will just look dumb........ You could have him shake a little bit once you inject the stuff and maybe even less before hand. Also ONCE you in ject him he should SCREAM like crazy.

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:50 am

Thanks for alle the tips.
I dunno if/ when I`ll be able to do this tough. - I need to rent a hut to get the right location, and people arent willing to pay... (for the hut, the food and the equipment) and I guess I understand since we`re amateurs...

Anyway, thanks for the help. I`ll let Y know if I get to make it some day.

DarkElastic · Post by **DarkElastic** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:07 am

If anyone from Britain reads this, and they watch Coronation Street - forced to by the misses - then you will know the Katie killing her dad scene shaking and twitching too much is bad. She annoyed me every time she was on the screen. It was cr**. But, the woman playing her mother was very convincing at playing upset.

With this scene of yours, it does depend on how much physical, and mental punishment he has been through when we get to the injection part. If he is fresh then he will still be pleading, swearing, attempting to get himself out of this situation. Where if he has been there for a while, and he has been beaten, and tortured to a degree, then he will be drained from the pain and bleeding. He will plead and cry, and even struggle when the man comes near him, and maybe swear and spit through blood.

maj_barnes · Post by **maj_barnes** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:28 pm

You could find like some kind of tan rubber tape a bag of blood to the bottom, then have a close up of the needle going in, and when the needle comes out it will be all bloody and it might have some of it come out of the wound.

Just a thought.

DaveP · Post by **DaveP** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:48 pm

considering Im related to a nurse and the head of a blood bank, I know most injections dont make much blood. What they do make, though, is limpness

for muscle contractions ect. why not jus get a muscle toning kit? they do exactly the same jobwithout the lethal ness of injecting your friends with spasm inducing chemicals

Radiate · Post by **Radiate** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:02 pm

You should try to lightly paint or spray his arm with a sickly greyish color, then have his arm hang limp. Good idea with the muscle toning kit.

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:29 am

Er. - I`m kinda new at this... - what is a muscle toning kit?

Radiate · Post by **Radiate** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:27 pm

Well, there a lot of different kinds........... Some help to build up your muscles, some can make them go limp, stiff, etc.........

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:00 am

Ah.. I C... but wont that affects my actors after the filming bit too? Not tu sure i want to do that. gotta find more info on it first..
thanks for the tip anyway

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:30 pm

it is sold as a "get toned quick" kit. I don't think there is any real evidence that it works though lol. Shoul dbe safe is sold so much to the public. Just don't act as bad as they do using it on the "Jackass" movie lol. It is an extra expense though. Yucan easily fake muscle spasms

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:51 pm

Ok. I guess I`ll just ask them to act then.. we are on a VERY strict budget so we need so save whatever money we can. But thaks for the help

Sebas · Post by **Sebas** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:49 pm

Throw some stuff on him suggesting it's a burning chemical liquid and make him scream

Almondo99 · Post by **Almondo99** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:00 pm

I was just watchin Tears of the Sun and they throw chemicals on one guy. It looks like lightly tinted water.

SgtPadrino · Post by **SgtPadrino** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:37 pm

Just show a close up the plunger being pushed down, don't actually show it being injected into the guy. Then get a good reaction on the next shot and it should look great.

Radiate · Post by **Radiate** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:12 pm

Awesome Idea!

windog · Post by **windog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:50 pm

sick.

AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn · Post by **AsbjÃƒÂ¸rn** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:37 am

(Good to see that I`m not the only person with a twisted fantasy...)
But: If I thorw "acid" at my actor then he`d still have to put on loads of make- up afterwards. - the person is supposed to be in the whole movie, and the sceene is in the middle of it...

windog · Post by **windog** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:41 am

Yep, put some good music to it and it should be good enough.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:41 am

I thought The Cell had some rather innovative means of torturing. Although I found the movie iteself, a little choppy. It had some neat special effects. Lethal injection is typically a pretty quick and relatively painless death, hence they use it today.