ww1 mines

vacuumera · Post by **vacuumera** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:54 pm

Is there any way i can add mines on to a world war one landscape. I've made the landscape, i just need some blue-screen mines to put over it.
I know that one way is to use a board on a pivot covered in debris. I want a few more ideas though. Im looking for mines because i dont think the explosions should have fire in them. Just flying dirt. Any good websites with free clips on them. Except for detonationfilms.com.
Thanks

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:00 pm

well, you could film it yourself if you have an air compressor, or even a foot pump. Just hook up a small tube to it, fill the tube with dirt, and shove down. Repeat so all the explosion don't look the same.

camiziodeltoro · Post by **camiziodeltoro** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:40 pm

donot do it with stock footage explosions, it will make your movie look bad and cheap. do it realtime with explosives or compressed air.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:18 am

If you know what you are doing, composited footage can look extremely convincing. I've had people ask me if I've done real dirt impacts while they're all composites.

But just throw a shovel full of dirt everywhere. That is how I do my grenade blasts. Obviously, you would need a larger shovel!

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:48 am

Yeah lol, or you can use a lever system

Towels42 · Post by **Towels42** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:42 am

If you have the means, compressed air is the best. Though, if you don't have a compressor, that might be a bit difficult. I'm in the process of trying to create an easy-to-use alternatives to compressor use of ground-blasts like you're asking about... If I come up with anything worth-while, I'll post it here.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:14 pm

Yeah I would go with compressed air, but if you can't do it, then think of alterntives as of making a small lever, or just chucking dirt into the air.. try a bunch mask out the lever/person and see which you like better

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:13 pm

The sound effect is the greatest givaway.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:21 pm

Yeah, sound is one half the effect

Almondo99 · Post by **Almondo99** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:10 pm

I have the actor run with a bowlingball. Put the camera behind him and have him drop it on the pivot board. You could also do the same thing with the explosion in the background and mask him out.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:36 pm

Bowling ball isn't near heavy enough. 17 pounds of force may not even lift the level if there is a lot of dirt atop it. A 200 guy stepping on it is a lot more proficient.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:27 pm

Yes it is

cantoloupe · Post by **cantoloupe** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:21 pm

just wondering, what do you guys mean by an air compressor??

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:51 pm

You use an air compressor to build up the pressure within a tank. Then when released into a hose, it'll blast out whatever's in the other end. That's why it's commonly used with squibs. Air is a bunch safer than using a power blasting device!

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:29 pm

Yeah, epsilon why is your avatar a drawing?

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:45 pm

I thought it was funny. I sketched a few concept uniform ideas out when I was supposed to be listening to an assembly speech over a year ago. I scanned it in some time ago, and I just came across it now, so why not put it up?

NaziSentry · Post by **NaziSentry** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:36 pm

its a paratrooper right?

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:02 pm

It's a drawing.

Nomaden · Post by **Nomaden** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:18 pm

that had to hurt XD

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:15 pm

Haha, I never said it was a bad one

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:53 am

Actually, it is irrelavent to anything in the military. It's what came off the top of my head at the time.