sorta off topic pyrotechnic

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:04 am

Well ive got a question about pyrotechnic stuff... But its not really having to do with movies..
A paintball scenario id like to go to allows "cold burning smoke" now i was unaware there was more than 1 type of smoke (the stuff at the fireworks stores).... anyone got any clue what this "cold burning smoke" is? or how to get it? or how its different from what im assuming is called "hot burning smoke"
thanks

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:42 am

I am guessing that it refers to the material that is producing the smoke or fog.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:54 pm

I think they probably mean that you can use either a fogger or a hazer to dump smoke on the paintball field. You can rent Roscoe foggers from theatre rental houses, and there's tons of theatre in Chicago. If you feel like owning a fogger, I've seen light duty ones in mall stores like Spencer gifts for about $40. They wouldn't really fill a big outdoor field though.

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:06 pm

yeah that makes sence....
thanks

Twabi2 · Post by **Twabi2** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:12 pm

you can also try this recepy, altough i don't know if it's "cold" smoke:
http://www.unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm

as you can see on the image, a little bit (i'm talking about 5 grams) can easely fill up a hughe room

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:22 pm

yeah ive heard of the recepie b4, but ive never seen how to combine them before.
So now my question is where do i get Potassium Nitrate?

Twabi2 · Post by **Twabi2** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:53 pm

hmmm, in dutch we say "drogist", but in engish?
hmm, where's that f*cking sictionary?!
Ow, here:
drogist m (-en) chemist, druggist

or you can go to the pharmacist or another store where they sell something known as "Saltpeter" to "Old-Timers" :p

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:08 am

I have ade them before. Yeah just go to the chemist probably over there for the chemicals.

A little warning though. It does take a lot of heat energy to light them and they do burn VERY hot!!!;)

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:26 am

thanks for the warning Grant... i had accually figured them to be not so hot burning... (although i always am safe with boomables)
its just good to know a bit more what to expect

Twabi2 · Post by **Twabi2** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:48 am

grant, you've got such an experience with explosions and stuff (udds armagedon, ...)
can you make your own fuse, and how do you do that?

i've tried some homemade electric fuses (9v battery, 2 wires and between the wires some steelwool), but they don't work quiet well

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:29 pm

im interested in this one too...

DoDGe · Post by **DoDGe** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:39 pm

Potassium nitrate / Saltpetre / (KNO3) is used a lot for smoke bombs etc. It is not legal to buy in England I dont think... Ive been looking for it for a long time, but it is used to make bombs, so ur not allowed it...

Mainley if you could get it i would say it would probably be in some garden place - Pottasium nitrate is used for many plant sort o' things

Twabi2 · Post by **Twabi2** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:05 am

in belgium it IS legal, i found it in a botlle (liquid) but you could dry it...

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 11:11 am

The very basic way of making a fuse is a simple party sparkler. This cannot be exactly timed though. I have successfully used a small light bulb as a fuse though. Carefully remove the glass from a small light globe and use the intact filament as the fuse in black powder of what ever you want to ignite. A small battery will work a charm as a power supply.

DrakeHwk · Post by **DrakeHwk** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:58 am

hmm... lightbuld fuse...
i just like the way that sounds....
(invisioning myself with some elaborate control pannel... blinking lights..... pushing buttons and explosions going off::: reality setting in)

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:47 am

Just use a really small globe but.

For some interesting fun file a small hole with a traingular file into the surface of a normal household lightbulb and fill it to the limanent with the fuel that you want to set off (blackpowder, sparkler powder, petrol etc). Plug the bulb into the socket turn the power on and BANG.
Can be down remotely easily using an extension cord.

I would not recommend this but i have hypothetically seen this done as a pratical joke on a person's doorway light.

But this is a highly dangerous action and pyro to build and as i have said in the past numerous times. Take extreme care and experiment:o

DoDGe · Post by **DoDGe** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:25 pm

the lightbulb one - I saw it used with a gas, very light, so when it was knocked on, it exploded, then rose to the ceiling and exploded outwards, looked very cool, but just as Grant said, either take extreme caution, or just dont do it, its very dangerous and will most probably burn down ur house

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:09 am

Hell yeah. As i said i would do it with an extension cord and bulb connection from a safe distance

I have heard of this technique being used for assassination purposes

DoDGe · Post by **DoDGe** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:42 pm

yeah, it was used in a movie... cant remember its name though... inferno something

used for assasination purposes i think

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 4:48 am

Just do it with care:D

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 12:45 pm

I don't know about the inferno movie, but I know it was used in a movie called "The Soldier" that came out in 1982. It was indeed an assasination device in that flick - the killer filled the lightbulb with gasoline mixed with liquid soap to make a poor-man's napalm.

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:11 am

Is that all that napalm is?
Anyway, If its' not to late, I'd like to put my two cents in about the paintball thing we were talking about before. My idea is, if its an indoor arena, do what my local laser tag company does, go Mission Impossible mode and stick a fogger in the vents