Ok, so I have to do a report in english class ( english is my second language btw... ) and we chosed to do a report about an explosion that happened at my school..... (no explosion happened at my school... it is a fake report)
To do so, I have to create a video were we can see my school exploding and burning, using a picture of my school ( see the picture bellow )
( white borders will be removed )
So, i would like you to tell me what software you would use to creat that effect ( I have adobe after effect 5.5 , premiere 6.0, photoshop 7.0 ) , and what should I do to obtain stock footage ( explosions, fire etc.. ) so it can look good with the angle of the picture....
for stock go to http://www.detonationfilms.com
i guess you could add in the explosion and then export a frame into photoshop and create debirs. that probably wouldn't look great tho.
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hm.. is the whole school exploding or a piece? If you want a small portion to sort of explode, i would show a cg explosion and immedlety after the smoke and sutff clears have fire burning, also get GOOD sound fx to create more realism, just a thought if you dont got any 3d modeling programs, plus i doubt you wanna waste hours modeling that whole location if you want the whole school to explode and all its pieces go flying, thats a different story, althougth you can try fbf editing and create pieces going all over the place, time consuming yes but would be worth it
I3lade203 wrote:hm.. is the whole school exploding or a piece?
Only a piece of it would explode, only the entrance ( the part near the parking where you can see 6 columns of windows ). But i dunno if the stock footage at "detonation films" would be ok since the angle of the picture is not the same than the angle taken when filming the explosions etc.... any ideas about this ??? and for the smoke.. would the particle playground in aftereffect would do a great job for that ???
justsomeguy : how would you do debrits with photoshop ?
Ide get a shot of a door, and set something off, then cut to the side of the building where this is, put a smoke machine, thus making it look like it exploded, but in actuallity it didnt
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Play with the peramators of the epxlosions, size motion rotation everything, and im sure youll get the explision in a way that looks good, and then add the fire and it should look good, you can also have other stock footage from other places, i think i have one somwhere i can get you, ill have to look
I seriously was going to do the same thing for my school! The main building is a 7 story tower, so I had a whacky idea about having a plane crash into it, then I thought about the commotion that would have erupted because they're all p*** over 9-11.
hah, if i did that to my school id probably get in trouble becuase my school are idiots althougth after my english video project im pretty well known now which is cool
Whoa, whoa, whoa... With all the crazy cr** that goes on these days (and combined with the fear that the news media drills into our heads), this video might not go over so well. Just talking about explosions in schools, airports, or anywhere else for that matter can get someone in a lot of trouble... but now you're going to SHOW it in a video. Even with the best of intentions, and act like this could very well be 'red-flagged' in the eyes or administrators or parents... I don't know if it's too late to do anything about the video --but be warned that something like this could get someone in a lot of trouble.
Most people would shrug it off as good fun, but there are liberal nuts out there that will think you are the next mass terrorist. So do be careful with whom you show your movies.
Are you american? One of your assignments is to report on an explosion at your school? Thats crazy! and then american youth specialists wonder why there are mass school shootings and bomb makers in schools. why doesnt your eductation department think before it issues an assignment like this... what does this assignment teach you? journalism? to report on horrific scenes as some sort of preparation for future events in the field of journalism? its crazy.
tell your teacher you want to film a nice human interest story with lots of focus racking and stuff haha. but seriously thats bad thaught on the teachers part there desensitizing you and taking you away from the real morals of the subject here.
but ill help
a long shot of a static still image of your school with composites of detonation film footage on it will look horrible... grab a camera whack it on your shoulder and film the school shaking a bit like a live report when the explosion happens shake the camera violently and fall over and then cut to static for a split second... the acting will enhance the glory of the effects. also if your going to composite explosions that are small fire crackers make sure you put them in slow motion to make them look like large explosions... also sound is a good helper in creating mood. get some students to scream and stuff. what im saying is use other things to take the attention away from the effects so they become believable and people dont focus on the explosion and say that it is fake. other than that i can help you with some good computer simulations of fireballs and etc so if you can give me a frame of where the explosion comes from i can generate some nice fireballs and debris. but that means you have to think what causes the explosion which will determine how the whole explosion would look like...
ultimate rule of thumb: Preparation & Planning. You must have every bit of this shot thaught out so that you can make it look real.
Personally i think you should blow up only part of the school... and also have the closeups as being the cameras that got the actual explosion and the helicopter sort of shot you have there for the aftermath with can just be smoke and bits of fire on a matte painting
thats what i mean.. a quick sort of photoshop image but then you can have kind of shake so it looks like its in a helicopter but see how it is just a small part of the building instead of a huge explosion. its more realistic that way.
insert_coin wrote:Are you american? One of your assignments is to report on an explosion at your school? Thats crazy! and then american youth specialists wonder why there are mass school shootings and bomb makers in schools. why doesnt your eductation department think before it issues an assignment like this... what does this assignment teach you? journalism? to report on horrific scenes as some sort of preparation for future events in the field of journalism? its crazy.
tell your teacher you want to film a nice human interest story with lots of focus racking and stuff haha. but seriously thats bad thaught on the teachers part there desensitizing you and taking you away from the real morals of the subject here.
but ill help
a long shot of a static still image of your school with composites of detonation film footage on it will look horrible... grab a camera whack it on your shoulder and film the school shaking a bit like a live report when the explosion happens shake the camera violently and fall over and then cut to static for a split second... the acting will enhance the glory of the effects. also if your going to composite explosions that are small fire crackers make sure you put them in slow motion to make them look like large explosions... also sound is a good helper in creating mood. get some students to scream and stuff. what im saying is use other things to take the attention away from the effects so they become believable and people dont focus on the explosion and say that it is fake. other than that i can help you with some good computer simulations of fireballs and etc so if you can give me a frame of where the explosion comes from i can generate some nice fireballs and debris. but that means you have to think what causes the explosion which will determine how the whole explosion would look like...
ultimate rule of thumb: Preparation & Planning. You must have every bit of this shot thaught out so that you can make it look real.
no, I'm not american, i'm canadaian. I asked to my teacher if it was ok for this idea and he said "that looks awesome!!! let's go for it!"
I blowed up only the part that is on fire on insert_coin's image, and put some scratches in it so it looks like a sateelit view ( why would an helicopter would film the school at the moment of an explosion ??? ).
Epsilon wrote:Most people would shrug it off as good fun, but there are liberal nuts out there that will think you are the next mass terrorist. So do be careful with whom you show your movies.
No, I think liberals and conservatives would equally freak out... but if you're talking about total left-wing crazies, than I'd bet they really don't care...
I'd like to add that I really enjoyed Insert_Coin's CNN screen shot of the school... Photoshop is awesome.
a long shot of a static still image of your school with composites of detonation film footage on it will look horrible... grab a camera whack it on your shoulder and film the school shaking a bit like a live report when the explosion happens shake the camera violently and fall over and then cut to static for a split second... the acting will enhance the glory of the effects.
Thats an awsome alternitive! Nice thinking! Brings the movie to a profesinall way - rather then showing the thing blow up you show the thing of the people with the explosion - you hardly have to show fire! Although in a real film they have the acsess to blow up a fake wall, while you do not
SO you havnt even attempted to do anything like this yet...i mean film wise
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All I recommend while looking at that shot is to fade the composites to blend with the background better. Then I think it will be quite convincing. Looks nice.
As for 'politically correct' goes, let me explain that this project is meant to be a parody. Both me and Mat (stickmurder30) had to make an amateur news broadcast as a media project. I was in charge of the story and directing. So I thought, why not blow this damn place up? The story would be simple: an Al-Quaeda terrorist showed up at our school, and blew it up. While we're aware it is an edgy subject, we must keep in mind that it is meant to be a comedy, simply a students' project intended to be fun to both makers and viewers. And in the end, we give little importance to politically correct situations in our projects, unless meant to be taken seriously.
By the way, I'm Axel, I'm a new user on this forum. I was intrigued and interested, so I joined you all. I'll probably remain silent, as movie-making is a rather new hobby for me.
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Welcome axel, u sure it should be some al-quaeda or something? u could make it Radioactive rats or something hehe..BUt otherwise good story
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i still dont agree that schools encourage this sort of stuff then wonder why there are violent kids out there... so they blame tv and rock music. its a vicious cycle but i cant stop you...
and just because it is al quieda makes the news story believable?
too political tonight and by my strange ramblings you can guess what caused it....
justsomeguy : how would you do debrits with photoshop ?
bit late to reply to this but you do something like insert coins thing but this is after the explosion/fire is done (this is when its good to have that helicopter effect, as if they are showing what happened) you erase the top most parts of the building and mess around with the burn tool in photoshop and add maybe search on google or something for debris or something and add it in to the surrounding area. this would be extremely hard for video but since you are only using an image it would be easy
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i still dont agree that schools encourage this sort of stuff then wonder why there are violent kids out there... so they blame tv and rock music. its a vicious cycle but i cant stop you...
and just because it is al quieda makes the news story believable?
Jeff, our teacher, didn't really agree at first, but since we are some of his best students, he agreed, knowing that our ideas always turn out good. As for Al-Quaeda, it's merely a reason to the explosion of the school. Did you need reasons when you imagined your school blowing up?
