16mm Film
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RE: 16mm Film
I've used it in the past but have never been able to afford it to do anything exciting with it.
I wouldn't worry about 'switching over' to it anyway, you might as well learn your craft on digital. And remember, anyone with a camera is a film maker, even if they're not technically shooting on film
It's what you do with it that counts. Anyone who's seen Bam Margeras "Haggard" will see that it's actually too easy to make 16mm look like video!
I wouldn't worry about 'switching over' to it anyway, you might as well learn your craft on digital. And remember, anyone with a camera is a film maker, even if they're not technically shooting on film
It's what you do with it that counts. Anyone who's seen Bam Margeras "Haggard" will see that it's actually too easy to make 16mm look like video!
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I've never seen Bam's film, BUT yes, it IS easy to make a good camera look like junk. Even taking an amazing camera, anyone can make it look horrible. It's knowledge of film that allows you to produce amazing images, no matter what the camera! Personally, I think the most important thing in cinematography is lighting. Good lighting can make the worst camera look somewhat cinematic. But use this with an amazing camera, add a great story, good acting, editing, etcetera, and you have an amazing film!
This is my opinion, anyways.
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I've never seen Bam's film, BUT yes, it IS easy to make a good camera look like junk. Even taking an amazing camera, anyone can make it look horrible. It's knowledge of film that allows you to produce amazing images, no matter what the camera! Personally, I think the most important thing in cinematography is lighting. Good lighting can make the worst camera look somewhat cinematic. But use this with an amazing camera, add a great story, good acting, editing, etcetera, and you have an amazing film!
This is my opinion, anyways.
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I personally think it's a pain. With as easy as (and cheap as) digital high definition is becoming, 16mm is still a lot of work. It's a 3 person crew minimum just to effectively operate the camera. Plus, I'm too used to being able to look through the camera at the final image. I guess I'm spoiled!
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Shooting on film certainly isn't cheap. Plus, if you aren't sure how to shoot with film, you may end up with a ton of unusable footage! For amateur filmmaking purposes, I would say just stick with video.
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Normally before i insult someone i say hehe,
No offence but... (then provide a list of cruel statements) but this time...
What a ridiculous first post - its so typical (for the rest of you to bear in mind) of the kind of trumped up twerps (gimps) who get their hands on film stock and suddenly feel they've been beautified by the cinematic pope!
So enough of the 'real' filmmaking BS, I've used film cameras from the S16mm SR2 to the Bolex and even the K3 (using the standard 16mm which i presume is the stock your talking about.) From that experience there is nothing 'real' about that in regards to filmmaking over video or HD video.
So don't think you can act like a snooty buttmunch just because your rolling of a reel of film because sadly unless its s16 to be blown to 35mm or 35mm itself its nothing but the hobby like fun of a student.
So yeah ive used 16mnd thats MY REPLY.
Honestly if i see another cravat wearing student with an archaic 16mm cam saying 'look at me im the genuine article' i think i'll puke!
No offence but... (then provide a list of cruel statements) but this time...
What a ridiculous first post - its so typical (for the rest of you to bear in mind) of the kind of trumped up twerps (gimps) who get their hands on film stock and suddenly feel they've been beautified by the cinematic pope!
So enough of the 'real' filmmaking BS, I've used film cameras from the S16mm SR2 to the Bolex and even the K3 (using the standard 16mm which i presume is the stock your talking about.) From that experience there is nothing 'real' about that in regards to filmmaking over video or HD video.
So don't think you can act like a snooty buttmunch just because your rolling of a reel of film because sadly unless its s16 to be blown to 35mm or 35mm itself its nothing but the hobby like fun of a student.
So yeah ive used 16mnd thats MY REPLY.
Honestly if i see another cravat wearing student with an archaic 16mm cam saying 'look at me im the genuine article' i think i'll puke!