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Mr.EditorMan · Post by **Mr.EditorMan** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:26 pm

Alright, here is my first attempt at Muzzle flashes, Please give your feedback, and one of the greatest tools: your critizism.

http://members.shaw.ca/jordweb/GUnshotTest3.wmv

Remember, First attempt. Ignore gunshot sound. Its pretty cheesy.

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:39 pm

I dont think the flash was too bad but the general framing of the shot was awful. The fridge seems to dominate the shot and the gun disappears out of shot for the second gunshot. The aim of the gun is also quite random.
I did quite like the titles as well.

UFProductions · Post by **UFProductions** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:13 pm

To critique the flashes only: they looked quite good. Perhaps a little too straight, not as spread out as I like them, but they were well placed, and the smoke looked good. Overall, as far as a test goes, not bad.

NoRemorse · Post by **NoRemorse** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:47 pm

What program did you use to make 'em?

Mr.EditorMan · Post by **Mr.EditorMan** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:20 am

Yes, the fridge did seem to dominate, but again, TEST, lol. I found some stock footage of a real muzzle flash and put it in using Adobe Premier.

asapfilms · Post by **asapfilms** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:24 am

That was pretty good I thought, over the summer I made a war movie using the flashes Matt offers... They're good but after over 1000 shots, they really dont look that real... Im working on a Matrix Romeo and Juliet flick and the script calls for guns, I would like to try something new. Could you send me the stock footage you used?
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shawneous · Post by **shawneous** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:56 am

That was better than most fake muzzle flashes I've seen. On a related note: I've recently been getting full auto training shooting the real things (Mac10, MP5, UZI, M16) and i'm here to say, that except for the M16, the others don't flash. Even the m16 only flashes a little (or if you take off the flash suppressor). Hollywood has so conditioned us to see flashes that aren't usually there. Typically its just a strong flash of smoke.

asapfilms · Post by **asapfilms** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:55 pm

Well in hollywood they use the blank shells, just the gun powder and no bullet and because there is no bullet the gunpowder flash is not supressed...causing it to flash a lot more, its just flaming balck powder coming out...

NaziSentry · Post by **NaziSentry** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:55 pm

True, (although the most powerful thing ive shot is a .22 magnum)

I agree.. i had to watch the movie 3 times befor i figured out where the flash was! The fridge dominated...

Carnage7p · Post by **Carnage7p** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:04 pm

hey just wondering what site those are from because the smoke afterwards looked really nice

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:22 pm

Flashes looked great, but like adam said, please frame your shot! If your using shots like that in a full film, I suggest you put your camera away and take up a new hobbie.

Mr.EditorMan · Post by **Mr.EditorMan** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:30 pm

Alrighty, i think its time i put this to rest... It was framed Poorly because i Didnt know the camera was running. We were just discussing what we were gonna do, and after I pulled it all off the camera, i thought to myself, 'I might as well edit this anyways.'

shawneous · Post by **shawneous** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:56 pm

Blade is just being an, hmm, what's the word that rymes with grass toll? Anyways, I understood that the framing, acting, etc. wasn't the point, just the muzzle flashes, and they were great. Now put them to good use in something that's not just a variation off the "a bunch of teenagers run around a house shooting each other"

Mr.EditorMan · Post by **Mr.EditorMan** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:03 am

Oh I plan on it

spoonstudiosintl · Post by **spoonstudiosintl** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:35 am

1) Your titles kicked trash all over the place, and were pretty sweet for a test.
2) The flashes, while being very good, don't seem suited to the guns being used. They look like flashes that belong in a western movie, coming from a Colt revolver.
3) Call me crazy, but the second shot didn't seem to be in alignment with the barrel of the gun. It seems to be shooting more parallel to the floor than the gun's barrel would allow.
4) Smoke was nice, but in my opinion was excessive. Keep in mind I am not an authority on handguns. But to me, just seemed like it was too much for a single shot.

Final Grade: B+

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:41 am

Cheese on toast is best with pickle!

spoonstudiosintl · Post by **spoonstudiosintl** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:44 am

I throw down a solid line-by-line and Cammy gives us . . . that.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:57 am

LOL! Well, he did ask for our opinions, so opinion I did give!

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:49 am

What the hell was that camclub?

asapfilms · Post by **asapfilms** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:09 am

well Mr.Editorman I like um, thanks for sending them to me!!!

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wdevn · Post by **wdevn** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:53 pm

The framing could have been a little longer and shake free. However, a good overall clip. It was hard to make the smoke hold on a mussle point because the frame was moving. Try holding a frame longer from a more head on angle. I try to hole my frames very still and add most effect...Like I did in this shot of a short movie I made in Japan of the Tokyo Goverment Building last week. mms://zulu.wdevn.com/enter/japanbigboom2.wmv (@141K)
mms://zulu.wdevn.com/enter/japanbigboom2hs.wmv (@275K)

Skitz-O-Phrenia · Post by **Skitz-O-Phrenia** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:38 pm

that looked really good wdevn, VERY good for home made.

Carnage7p · Post by **Carnage7p** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:16 am

i dont think i would go as far to say VERY good. but it was better than most people can do.

Skitz-O-Phrenia · Post by **Skitz-O-Phrenia** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:39 am

if he isnt being paid to make that I dont see how you cant say it is very good. That cr** takes alot of tallent and time. If he is being paid then....

Mr.EditorMan · Post by **Mr.EditorMan** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:57 pm

Trust me, if i was being paid, it would likely be the real thing, lol.

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