film look

U.S.Amateurfilmaker · Post by **U.S.Amateurfilmaker** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:03 am

Low shutter speed is used for low light conditions. It can make the picture jerky if you have a lot of movement.

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:15 am

Depends what he means by 'low shutter speed', he might actually mean progressive scan. If so, then great!

BrownCowStudios · Post by **BrownCowStudios** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:42 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but progressive scan has nothing to do with a low shutter speed, or any shutter speed for that matter. Progressive scan refers to FPS. In the example of NTSC, progressive would be 30fps, rather than 60i. The way I see it, shutter speed has very little to do with progressive scan.

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:27 am

You are correct. But those of lesser knowledge might think it is a shutter speed effect. My media teacher for example... I had to educate my educator about that one

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:59 pm

Hang on a sec, I'm from a photographic background, not a movie one, and for me shutter speed means overall exposure time onto the film. Generally it works this way:

You always want the narrowest apature your lens can go. It increases the focal depth (Unless you want an effect where you want to blur out he background). Disadvantage is that small apature size means less light on the film, so you have to compensate by keeping the shutter open longer. This then sucks if you have a fast action shot, because it'll come out as a blur (Which could be the effect you want, but then again, not), especially the case for low-light shots.

So how does this principal relate onto video?

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:33 pm

The same camclub, the same! I was just saying that whoever it was who mention it was mistaking it for something else, which is easily done as progressive scan gives the illusion of high shutter speeds (and vice versa)

With shutter speeds in video and film, it makes the difference between blurry smooth motion and sharp yet jerky motion.

MFrosty · Post by **MFrosty** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:37 am

I have cinelook and filmFX. But, what I really like is Magic Bullet. Really cool. In order for these things to look good, you have to treat the Dv like it was shot on film. I'm talking about lighting, depth of field, motions, angles, ETC. I've seen some videos where I was really fooled into believing it was shot on film!

ALove · Post by **ALove** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:55 pm

ok. finally found a good look

in premiere
right click on the video clip and choose always deinterlace
put two clips on top of each other and move 1 clip 1 frame forward
make top clip 25% opacity
choose the polterize time effect and make in 24
export at 29.97
in After effects
interpret footage to remove 3:2 pulldown
play with gamma, levels, hue and saturation
add small amount of noise
export to 23.97 fps
Voilia! instant film look! (actually not instant, LOOOOONG render times, but its worth it, especially on my progressive scan tv.)

negusproductions · Post by **negusproductions** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:18 pm

Magic Bullet is still my choice

Mushiman · Post by **Mushiman** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:19 pm

Very good negusproductions, why didn't you dig some dinosaurs up with this old post?

negusproductions · Post by **negusproductions** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:38 pm

Hey Mushiman...
I'm new to this board and have read every thread in this forum. Every one.

This enables me to do things better and offer advice.

If we as indie movie makers take our craft seriously, then others would takes us seriously...just as I take your reply seriously (and slightly offensive)

Mushiman · Post by **Mushiman** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:03 pm

negusproductions wrote:This enables me to do things better and offer advice.

Yes, i like your 'advice' in your last post. 'Magic Bullet is still my choice'.
Very useful. I think i'll go and shell out $795 based solely on your 'advice'.

Chill man, you need a rest after reading 'every thread in this forum'.

We tend to think of your 'Magic Bullet is still my choice' post as spamming, particularly as you brought up an old topic.

negusproductions · Post by **negusproductions** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:05 pm

I'm not spamming. And I got MB off of ebay for under $200.

I was just going through topics and like veryone else here, thought I'd offer my opinion.

No crime in that no matter how old the post is, right?

negusproductions · Post by **negusproductions** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:09 pm

I visited your website and was impressed.

I have been in a few major motion pictures before I decided to do the indie thing.
Even though my first impression of you as a moderator is not the greates being that you seem to choose to insult my post, I guess you are serious about what you do.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:32 pm

Mushiman wrote:Very good negusproductions, why didn't you dig some dinosaurs up with this old post?

You're not that old yet!

bangoker · Post by **bangoker** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:13 pm

Raptor wrote:Exactly ornsack, edit in Premiere, export as uncompressed DVAVI, import into AE add effects, then export as uncompressed AVI, import into Premiere, tweak any final edits and render to the output format, basically lossless all the way. Don't render to MPEG until the fianl edit....

that sounds good but...I think you forgot to write that by doing that you will say bye bye to your harddrive space very soon

just made the Wet Floor Trailer (30 seconds) so that i could import the uncompressed vidoe to Windows media encoder. The file is 115mb. by doing this technique, you would have to have at one moment 2 uncompressed videos (the one you exported from premier, which you need until the file from AE is exported) so, if the clips are big, a lot of disc space might be required

but again, if you have 2 100gb discs or something like that, it probably wont be a problem

Mushiman · Post by **Mushiman** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:30 am

negusproductions wrote:Even though my first impression of you as a moderator is not the greates being that you seem to choose to insult my post.

Sorry about that, i'm grumpy by nature & i've been ill these past few days.

No hard feelings?

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:42 pm

Bad Moderator Mushiman!

*slaps Mushiman really hard on the back of the head and then legs it as fast as possible*

Mushiman · Post by **Mushiman** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:04 pm

*Mushiman looks round to see Ornsack runnig away & then passes out!*

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:00 am

*Ornsack concieves the idea that this should be filmed, so the guys get together and recreate the scene and get Ã‚Â£250 between them for sending the footage to You've Been Framed*

Anyway, bad moderators for letting this thread go off topic...

negusproductions · Post by **negusproductions** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:26 pm

No hard feelings