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Does anyone know anything about wire fighting? I don't need so much a fighting setup as a flying one, but i'd like to base it on the same principles.
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Fighting while having wires on? What are you trying to achieve by having the wires on ?
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U know, like suspended fighting
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Well, do you want the fighting to take place in air? Or you just want the wires for flips and such? A tip I can deffintly give you : Have sure your actors are conmfterbale with saftey conditions , and that they pratice, pratice, pratice.
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well first of all you must before decide what movments will be taking place... this will determine the appopriate rig for you to use. If there are just jumps flips kicks etc then a normal Y configuration will be appropriate however if you are running up walls etc then you will need to change the rig obviously. You must find a harness that is appropriate for the movment aswell... if it is jumps etc then a normal waist harness should be sufficient however if there are flips etc you may require a full body harness. It will all depend on your movment. usually though it is a basic rockclimbers harness with one steel wire from either side (wrapped in material as not to hurt hands etc) in a Y configuration imagining the bottom most part of the Y being a person and the two arms of the Y being attached to a steel bar so that acrobatics are much easier.

as a personal note try not to get the actors to hold the wires when shooting the stunt its a dead give away... aka matrix.
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What exactly are you using a harness for? Give a more detailted explination please.
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To attach your body to the wires!!!!
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There is a picture of a harness similar to the one I am using at this website
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NaziSentry wrote:To attach your body to the wires!!!!
No s*** sherlock :P ! I'm asking him what he's specificly using the harness for , for film use, not the use of a harness..
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Post by DarthGuntherIII »

I'm using the harness to have someone fly backward through the air to land on his stomach. and maybe some random fight flipping stuff.
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use trampolines like me! Good ones, not crappy K-Mart ones! And Gymnastics mats.
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But you see... jumping off a trampoline, flying 20 feet, then landing on your belly is likely to rupture organs and fracture bones. No gym mat can save you with a stunt like that!
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Not with one of those giant four foot thick crash mats. Only problem is they cost like $1000.
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Yeah. that might pose a problem. Since I have a total of fifty dollars. to my name. Better than friday, though. Friday I had 2.
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Yeah using a harness dosn't make you superman though. It still requires lots of saftey precuations.
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I was on a set of indie few years ago. Stunt (and also director, lead actor and producer) jump from about 6-7 meters. He landed on few layers of cardboard boxes (about 2m high) cover with gym mates (about 15cm) but he didn't fell on stomach. It would be dangerous.
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Way to take a risk for art huh? Well I don't suggest doing that lol, think smart, be safe.
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You could try a fake wall and put the cam on it and move the wall to him and have him drop down making him look like he is sliding. Just quic shots. :roll: you will need to mount the cam sideways.
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What does he need a fake wall for doing a backflip onto his stomach?
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You lot don't need expensive crash mats, cardboard boxes strung together in several layers will do nicely!
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You can also get cheap gymnastics mats.
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or you can hire me! I can do flips / fighting without wires :D
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