New Explosion

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:07 pm

Hello,
I just made this explosion... tell me what you think? anyhting i should change?

http://www.home.no/sindrestyles2/blow.wmv

Carnage7p · Post by **Carnage7p** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:13 pm

it's not bad. is that for a project you are working on or was that just for fun?

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:24 pm

it's just for fun... it was just a test to see if i could make nice explosions and i think i managed, but i wanted a second opinion...

monkey · Post by **monkey** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:41 pm

how did you do that?

Carnage7p · Post by **Carnage7p** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:52 pm

monkey wrote:how did you do that?

not very difficult. it can be done in a number of ways. the most common ways are CG and stock footage.

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:56 pm

I used After Effects. I have a plug-in called Trapcode Particular. It is excellent. Very easy!! I made this movie in about 30 minutes. If you have After Effects you should try Trapcode's plug-ins. You can download them at www.trapcode.com

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:15 pm

Ew plugins, no offesne but plugins are more newbish.. but it's okay I Guess.. I didn't see an explosion, just a missle, which I would do with stock footage

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:20 pm

I don't see a problem with plug-ins if they deliver great results... You did'nt see the explosion?? that i don't understand...

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:22 pm

Becuase plugins are just doing something for you, to really achieve the effect you do it yourself.. otherwise you can't really call it all your work and no, I only saw a missile come down and smoke

justsomeguy · Post by **justsomeguy** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:48 pm

i think the smoke was the explosion, not bad, the camera shake really helped it

U.S.Amateurfilmaker · Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:18 am

There is one thing I have an issue with, and that is people bashing the use of all plug-ins and preset effects. If you want to get something done quickly, there is no problem with a plug-in as long as it gives good results. The audience is not going to care whether you spent 5 hrs doing it yourself, or 1 hr with the aid of a plug-in. Though I am all for giving it your all and trying to achive the best effect possible by yourself, I don't think someone should say "I can't include that in my film, i haven't achieved that level of expertise yet" when they can ifthey use a plug-in to help them. Anyway, im done ranting, no offense to anyone lol

Anyway, i thought the explosion looked good, especially withe the shake.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:58 am

the camera shake really helped it

Yeah it is

If you want to get something done quickly, there is no problem with a plug-in as long as it gives good results. The audience is not going to care whether you spent 5 hrs doing it yourself, or 1 hr with the aid of a plug-in.

No they are not , but well it's all sub conciuous knowing you "cheated" for me at least

bad_karma24 · Post by **bad_karma24** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:01 am

Good explosion, nice to see smoke as opposed to fire.

And Blade, stop bashing plug-ins. All professional SFX houses use them, how do you think they do the things they do in the time given to them?

justsomeguy · Post by **justsomeguy** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:53 am

No they are not , but well it's all sub conciuous knowing you "cheated" for me at least

its not as bad as like taking actual footage from a movie like an explosion and then usiong it. hey i3lade, what does your name mean anyway, ive never been able to figure it out

bad_karma24 · Post by **bad_karma24** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:58 am

The I3 is a B. It's Blade.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:01 am

He said i3lade, just not in caps

bad_karma24 · Post by **bad_karma24** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:46 am

bad_karma24 · Post by **bad_karma24** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:09 am

Oh, just a tip upon thinking about it. After the explosion sounds fade, add in a sound of a missile whining towards it's target (trust me, that's really what happens).

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:19 am

Should I add the sound of a missile whining after the explosion? Not before when the missile is actually there?

Syras · Post by **Syras** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:44 pm

i'm guessing it has something to do with the speed of sound vs speed of light over long distances

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:24 pm

Bleh..

Gyro · Post by **Gyro** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:57 pm

You should add a lead in sound effect for the explosion otherwise it was really pretty cool.

KeiserSniTT · Post by **KeiserSniTT** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:10 pm

Thanks... I know, but i could'nt find any good missile whining sounds...

bad_karma24 · Post by **bad_karma24** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:17 pm

i'm guessing it has something to do with the speed of sound vs speed of light over long distances

You got it. It really freaked people out in England during WWII. That's for rockets though. If you're doing a mortar scene, Battleground should be required viewing as it contains actual sounds from WWII of mortar attacks.

Raptor · Post by **Raptor** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:17 pm

Almost everything beyond simple cuts and crossfades in an editor invloves the use of a plugin... would hate to have to hand mask every frame for a chroma key just because I didn't want to let the app handle it with a plug in....