Old-Skool Style challenge!

Ivan Speilberg · Post by **Ivan Speilberg** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:33 pm

There was a company I came across a few years back called the lime-light sign company. They made signs out of specially coloured plastics that glowed brightly under Ultra-Violet. Yes, it's that easy, all you need is a rod made from a similar UV reactive material, and switch on a UV floodlamp, and Bob's your Uncle, Fanny's your Aunt, and you have an instant glowing light-sabre! If you dirty up the lens, say with a smear of vaseline (Photographers always carry vaseline!), and film it in slightly subdued lighting, them thar lightsabres will really glow!

How about switching a light-sabre on? Simple, move the light up the rod to illuminate it, and it'll have a similar look to when they switch them on in Star Wars! You can get different colour reactive plastics for differently coloured sabres. Just pop your rod into the handle, and a few cuts later you're up there giving it what for with your light-sabre!

Before I discovered After Effects, I used broomsticks covered with 3M brand reflective tape. When the camera's light reflects on the tape, the tape glows just like a light saber. Also a small oval shape of this tape over an actor's eyelids looks like an evil sombie.

Famous · Post by **Famous** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:56 am

Don't you mean CSI?

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:13 am

Epsilon wrote:Okay CamClub, try this: The hundreds of ships, tanks, balloons, and soldiers moving around Omaha Beach post d-day, as in Saving Private Ryan.

I was supposed to get back to you on this one, and completely forgot about this thread, so here goes....

Models!

That's right! That's what's been used in epic movies before! Good models and close camera-cuts!

You can make a model boat appear to be sailing on the sea simply by moving the camera around it. You'd also have a few full-scale replicas, for close-up camera work.

Matt used a toy tank in 1 of his films! Okay, it looked really bad (Sorry Matt), but had the model been a bit bigger with a better set, doifferent camera lenses, and some automation in the tank, it could have passed off for the real thing!

Soldiers aren't that difficult - Again, all you need is a load of extras - the uniforms don't have to be too detailed (Saving money), apart from the actors that get seen close enough to pick out details.

The thing here is that Hollywood often adopts full-scale props, then uses closer cuts on a sound-stage set. Casts of 1000's are not uncommon either! Computers are making this more seamless, and duplication is another strong attribute!

NEXT!

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:32 am

CGI as things made in a modeler and animated

That cant be true becuase blue screen is using Cgi - Computer Generated Imagry technicly the computer isn't making it but your using the computer to put together and make the scene, i think cam club wants it all completely oldschool no computers invloved!
How about this camclub : Huge massive armies being trampled on by huge creatures, swooped up eaten and or thrown by flying creatures, and then everything and everyone falling to a huge pit of molten lava muahhahah lol i have a feeling your going to say models

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:32 am

lol i blew up a toy tank and soldiers in UDDS ARMAGEDDON

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:54 am

Grant, I remember that! Twas comical too!

Camclub, how about a man jumping onto speeding bullet train?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:53 am

just really jump onto a speeding train old school like James Bond used to be. The James Bond stunts were legendary until CGI came along

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Thu May 06, 2004 4:29 am

I mean the trains going 250 kph a train impossible to jump onto without killing yourself.

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:53 pm

Shooting a TV

film fanatic · Post by **film fanatic** » Thu May 06, 2004 4:35 pm

Shooting a TV?? Actually shoot it!

Or if not, and you have a TV to spare, take pff the back and fill it with firecrackers. Do your shooting shot then CUT to the TV blowing up with bullets

DaveP · Post by **DaveP** » Thu May 06, 2004 5:12 pm

haha
how about cutting off somebodies head, and actually seeing it closeup, in shot so U see the head separate from the body

UFProductions · Post by **UFProductions** » Thu May 06, 2004 9:53 pm

Split screen effect with the same actor interacting with himself (Not that, get your minds out of the gutter) in the same shot. Like in The Nutty Proffesor, or Austin Powers. (No mirrors, they have to be in different clothing)

pdj · Post by **pdj** » Fri May 07, 2004 1:15 am

The old James Bond sequences were usually sped up

ps- this thread has been fun to read

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Fri May 07, 2004 5:11 am

And it has been fun to ask questions!

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat May 08, 2004 12:29 am

yeah buy PDJ they were real! Such stunts on skis, parachutes, car jumps, the whole works!!!!!

pdj · Post by **pdj** » Sun May 09, 2004 8:18 am

Oh yeah- no doubt they were real...just done at 'safe speeds' then sped up to look more intense...

the_satanic_COokie · Post by **the_satanic_COokie** » Sun May 09, 2004 4:07 pm

This stuff is kinda simple...
like

for the "bullet time" effect just watch "SNIPER with tom berenger"
They practically invented "following a bullet" shots.
They had an actual slug attached to a glass rod ( i think) and they just slid it across frame, then sped it up. For the times it turned out quite well.

for the head getting chopped off, ANIMATRONICS!!
See: "The Thing, day of the dead, kill bill"

oh and the rocket propelled camera...not quite a good idea.
BUT
in the most terrible movie I have ever seen "house of the dead"
they had a pretty nifty way of doing a "bullet time" effect

The actors stand on a circular stand that is about 2 ft. off the ground.
underneath the stand is an arm that comes out from below the stand, and is attached to the middle of the stand on an AXLe.

The camera is then attached to the arm and the camera is spun, with a motor, at over 100 mph.

It actually worked pretty well..

REnt the movie, dont watch the movie but watch the special effects part, just to see that.

THat movie is terrible though, if you can just find a way to get your hands on the movie without paying money to the s*** asses that made it.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:38 am

Oh CamClub, oh CamClub.

Oh where art thou CamClub?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:17 am

and this was his idea

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:00 am

He has given up on his own challenge!

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:35 pm

Blowing up a planet? Camclub?

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:05 am

2nd_Recon wrote:Blowing up a planet? Camclub?

Well I have a half old school idea, it involves blue screaning the stares, becuase I can't think of a good star idea.

You build the planet out of styrophome, or light wood, you fill the inside with the explosive, some dirt, and chunks of rock look alike, put it on a background matching stick then blow it up.

monkey · Post by **monkey** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:14 am

make an effect of a m1 garand rifle firing, in slow motion, the chamber opening and a shell flying out

MISTER HOT SHOT

monkey · Post by **monkey** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:16 am

without using a real rifle, or a blank firing one

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:56 am

I don't know why you can't use a real one, but anyways, it would be quite easy to get (or build) a replica rifle, spring load the casings to eject, and simply have them released one at a time as the trigger is pulled. Then slow it down as normal. That is a fairly easy one.

You know, color screening is not at all limited to digital editing. They've been using the concept of screen masking for years before the first electronic camcorder was available.