Prevention Clip Online!

[Gyro]

As some of you may know, we've only filmed one scene from my new film, Prevention (Filming tomorrow, whoo!)

So, I decided to post up a clip to gather some hype for the film. This is the scene in the film where the president gets kidnapped, the side story.

Some notes before critiquing. Chang the size to "wide" before viewing , just the uploader, I haven't done anything with the audio yet, that's why it sounds so crappy, I did not add a muzzle flash, but plan to later on, and finally this is not the music I plan on using, I am creating my own music later.

Here we go, about 10mbs.

http://media.putfile.com/Prevention-Clip-1

[buck_suck]

Ahh I see you like the song Angel. They used it most effectively in Snatch. Okay I just watched it and I'm gonna' give harsh, critical comments of what I thought of it. Please don't take it personally. I think its only right that we give you feedback so that you can improve. Overall I thought it was okay. The concept itself was brought out okay and the message/story portrayed was transmitted appropriately.

However, I had trouble with the discrepancies I observed which make the entire piece very unrealistic and inaccurate. Nice car-camera mount too but why is the president in such a crappy car? I mean...A Ford Focus...?(No offense to whoever owns it) and why does he not have an escort? Protocol usually dictates that if the president is traveling along open roads, he has to be accompanied by at LEAST 2 Secret Service vehicles. (The cliché of that would be the black Fords SUVs) Also, why does the president's driver/bodyguard not do a thing when a car friggin cuts them off and forces them to stop? I mean even without an escort for whatever reason, DUDE that guy should be hitting the panic button or drawing a sidearm, not going outside to 'check it out'. Considering all presidential vehicles are bullet proof, going outside is the worst thing a trained officer can do in this kind of hostile situation. Not to mention, why is the driver's window wound down? That is totally unbecoming. Presidential limos or the cars of other big wigs always have tinted windows (wound up) for a reason - Which is to note identify the car's occupants. Winding it down increase vulnerability and a chance and getting spotted.

The 'terrorists' look so blatantly hostile that it would take a stupid nut not to think they had bad intensions. (I mean, hand in pockets, smug look on face...C'mon!) And umm whatsup with the constant slow-motion movements? Nonetheless, I liked the part when the driver got shot though. The wide angle with the cool background is quite nice.

Anyway, that's all I can think of for now. Like I said, nothing personal. Just mentioned some stuff you might want to touch up. Keep making films man haha. No worries. As it is, with the kind of plot you have and the huge story you're undertaking, I admire your guts. I can't say that anyone could've done anything better with an independent filmmaker budget. Cheers. Let me watch other clips if you have any ^_^

[Gyro]

Well, let me tell you one thing that may consider you changing that entire comment. One, did you read the original synopsis of the film? Guessing that you did not due to the fact that you think it's the President of the United States of America, it is not. It's the president of a poor third world country. Thanks for the comments though.

[Kentertainment]

I love my sexy brown Chevy Metro. To all that wonder, that crazy terrorist guy in the coat is me. I like the style to your editing and the green tint you put in. I liked the music you used for it, it's too bad you're going to be making your own because that sounded really good. Reminds me of "Flight of the Phoenix".

[SgtPadrino]

I'd just like to add that the finalized version of Unforgiven uses Angel, but I added it several months ago. So when I get around to putting it up you can't accuse me of plagiarism

And for everyone's sanity, please stop using Putfile. I can't even watch the damn thing.

[Gyro]

I'll upload it on something else tomorrow, but can I ask why can't you view it?

[SgtPadrino]

After ten minutes it says "Buffering: 2% complete."

[Gyro]

Intersante' well... I am uploading it with filefront currently, so yes.

[buck_suck]

Oh haha well I assumed they were American because they had American (Even if slightly) accents. 'I'll go check it out'. Well you could try www.youtube.com It reduces the quality drastically but the loading time is relatively faster than Putfile. And yes I did read your synopsis sometime before though I suppose I must've forgotten the part about the 3rd world president. Sorry. And no, Angel is not from Flight of the Phoenix though it does resemble it somewhat - Its actually from Snatch.

[UnkindSky]

It purty gud man, purty gud. Beside the VERY slow buffering period lol. But i liked it

[thewarmovie]

It was ok. Really the only thing that got to me most, was that you broke the 180 degree rule, A LOT!

But other then that, I thought that the story will be quite good.

[Lawriejaffa]

Yep the 180 degree rule tho doesnt have to be followed though (so long as its broken intentionally) in this scene where its disorientating anyway (an ambush etc) i think it works okay.

I think the presidents car (of whatever country) is a little amusing tho, and some points about his incompetent bodyguard do ring true, (like him getting out the car, getting himself killed etc.)

But it was shot nicely and stylishly and the slow motion sequences i think worked well, ala sam peckinpah (or er however you spell his name lol)

[Gyro]

Hey thanks alot Lawriejaffa... as far as the "bodyguard", it's all explained in the plot of the film, thanks for the comments though.

[thewarmovie]

Though, I think to break the rule, you have the establish another line...hmm...I forget...

[ProdigyFilmsinc.]

Overall That looked good. The only thing I saw wrong was the shadow on the Presidents face in the car. You couldn't see him. Maybe that was intentional, I don't know. Other than that it looked good. The color change was a good effect.

[Lawriejaffa]

thewarmovie, (sorry if im offtopic here gyro i'll be brief) the 180' rule, if broken does not require necessarily a new line to be established, while this (new line) is done often when changing the line (for example by Hitchcock a lot, see dial m for murder, it is by no means necessary.

The rule simply establishes characters and the scenes within a 'realistic' context, (realistic as in being the current way we percieve 'normality' in a film. But it is just an illusion, hwoever, we must mantain it if we do not want to disorientate the audience (that is by breaking it.)

However if you do want to disorientate or manipulate the audience, then breaking or altering the rule is perfectly common, and has no conditions for doing so either.

Okay i wasn't brief! (forgive gyro) but in anycase thewarmovie, u have the most gorgeous profile pic ever! Is that ur cat!?!

[Gyro]

Question in regards to the 180 degree rule, I did know that I was breaking the rule during the shoot. Did, you as in the audience get "diorientated"? Or perceive nomarlity?

[thewarmovie]

Slighly disoriented, not the whole time, just untile he gets out of the car...I think. Though, The movie wasn't bad, I think that the rule was really the thing only that got to me. Hmm...well I never was very good at the all the rules of 180lyness. lol. Thanks.

Thank you for the comment, yes, that is my cat!

[Lawriejaffa]

lol well nite nite chaps, time for bed now,

Yeah its a beautiful cat thewarmovie, I love cats bless them!

I wasnt effected too much by the rule itself, in ur clip there gyro cos editorially it was pretty fast, it wasnt really like a kind of standard drama scene where it would be noticeable so much more (to me) thewarmovie says he was slightly disorientated as a result, but creatively perhaps that works in the scene?

Certainly with the rule, the perception of so called normality, or should i say 'continuity editing' is not necessarily supposed to be noticeable (and its not the 10 commandments either, its just thee most popular style for recreating so called 'reality' for film - from DW Griffith to others of the era.

I think ur scene works well, its important to be very aware of the 'rule' but at the same time not to let it castrate your creativity imo

[SgtPadrino]

I wasn't even aware you broke any rules. I had no problem understanding it.

I liked it overall, few minor probs - usually whenever I listen to that song, I think of a scene where something completely unexpected and graphic happens, and this wasn't really the case so it didn't feel like the song fit to me.

And you guys take your local scenery for granted, and it annoys the hell out of me. I saw less than a fraction of a second of a gorgeous mountain range, and it wasn't even given a second thought!

[Kentertainment]

usually whenever I listen to that song, I think of a scene where something completely unexpected and graphic happens, and this wasn't really the case so it didn't feel like the song fit to me.

I think he's going to be doing an original score, it might've been mentioned earlier.

And you guys take your local scenery for granted, and it annoys the hell out of me. I saw less than a fraction of a second of a gorgeous mountain range, and it wasn't even given a second thought!

I took care of that in my movie.



I'm just jokin' with ya.

[Gyro]

Yes, as stated earlier this is not the song I intend on using for the final draft, it was just thrown in for the test clip. And as far as the scenary, I think a random wide shot of the Rocky Mountain Range would not go over well in such a fast paced scene as this.

Thanks for all the feedback though everyone.

I intend of filming more this weekend, if my Marines would commit.

[maj_barnes]

I liked it. Everything from the guard walking up to the terrorist was put together really well, and alot of the shots from in the car looked good.

The only things I didn't like was the constant slow motion, and when they're pulling the president into the car: the sudden jolt from shaky cam, to a tripod.

Did you add the slide pulling back? It looked like it to me. But that could just of been the recoil.