Cameras Please help....

[windog]

i am going to buy one of the kits below, what do you think? i will be editing with premier pro, and could someone tell me a bit more about hd? does it go on the pc in the same way as dv footage?



Sony HDR-FX1E HDV Camcorder
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Sony HDR-FX1E DV / HDV Camcorder Kit



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You get:

1 x Sony HDR-FX1E DV / HDV Camcorder

1 x Beachtek DXA-4 Dual balanced XLR input adaptor

1 x Sony NP-F970 High Capacity Battery

1 x Sony AC-V700A Charger

1 x PortaBrace CS-DV4 case

1 x Vinten Pro-5 tripod c/w case

1 x Bebob Zoe zoom controller

1 x Sennheiser ME-66 "Gun" Microphone kit with Rycote Softie Windshield, Pistol grip & K-6 PSU

1 x Sony UWP-C1/67 tie clip radio microphone

1 x Sennheiser HD-25 professional headphones

1 x 6m XLR microphone cable

1 x Selvyt lens cloth



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Sony DSR-PD170P Camcorder Kit



When you invest in a DSR-PD170P you are also likely to need a host of other kit in order to make a complete shooting package, therefore we've put together a special deal for a DSR-PD170P and all the best essentials!



SAVE OVER £625 on our normal discounted web pricing!



You get:

1 x DSR-PD170P with full 2 year Sony Silver Support Warranty & wide angle lens

1 x Sony NP-F970 High Capacity Battery

1 x Sony AC-V700A Charger

1 x PortaBrace CS-DV3 case

1 x Vinten Pro-5 tripod c/w case

1 x Bebob Zoe zoom controller

1 x Sennheiser ME-66 "Gun" Microphone kit with Rycote Softie Windshield, Pistol grip & K-6 PSU

1 x Sony UWP-C1/67 tie clip radio microphone

1 x Sennheiser HD-25 professional headphones

1 x 6m XLR microphone cable

1 x Selvyt lens cloth

[Epsilon]

Well it all depends on how much they cost in order to know if either are a good deal or not!

[windog]

no,no all i needto know is what cam to get, should i go for HD?

[Epsilon]

It depends on how much you are wiling to pay for it. Is it worth it? I don't know. Nobody does but yourself. Will you ever use it? I think the FX1 is nicer in picture than the PD170, as it is an older product. The FX1 is very new.

[Raptor]

The PD 170 has better low light response than the FX1. Also the 170 has the XLRs on teh camera, doesn't need the beachtek for XLR audio decvices

[Epsilon]

Really? I thought my FX1 was really nice on the low light end. The Beachteks are nice too. You can find them for about $150 on eBay.

[windog]

you have a sony FX1?

[Raptor]

No but Sony's ratings show the PD with a lower LUX rating, and some indepensdent reviews ( b-roll.net had one) talk about better LL performance on the 170/2100 optics. As much as I like my SOny cams, the new Panny and JVC cams offer some great features, in cams sub $6000 MSRP ( probably 4k - 4.5k street price) like DVCPro HD as opposed to HDV. Keep in mind, HDV streams are highly compressed, useing MPeg2 compression technologies

[windog]

can you watch hdv on tv?

[Epsilon]

Of course, if you have an HDTV.

Yeah, the Mpeg compression is the only bugger about it, in my opinion. I am probably going to use it more in DV mode and take full advantage of the full widescreen and cine-gamma correction.

[windog]

ok, go to www.wiredvideo.net what cams would say they used?

[Epsilon]

PAL.

[windog]

lol, what camera?

[windog]

if you were a pro, what would you go for? Canon xl2?

[Raptor]

Next on my hit list is a Sony DSR-400 or something in that family. Or into the lower end Panny DVCPro format. I would prefer to get something DVCPro50, but have to check compatibility witht he local TV stations for formats on Pro50. XL2 is as close as Cannon comes to producing a Pro camera, and it is still in the prosumer ranks. One of the reasons I avoid Cannon video, they don't produce a true Pro camera. JVC / Sony / Panny all produce broadcast level cameras, and I'm sure some of the technology they have developed for those cams in tape transport, format, Imaging systems has filtered down to the prosumer cams at least.

[Raptor]

Hard to say, the stuff has been posted, but I would say from what I can see it almos has a Panny look to it

[Epsilon]

if you were a pro, what would you go for? Canon xl2?

Are you kidding!? If I were making movies professionally, I'd go for a couple of these suckers...

Sony HDWF900H

[Raptor]

Welll, yeah, if I had a couple hundred K hanging around LOL.... I shoot mostly for television though so I tend to consider a clean video look as the most important.

[windog]

a bit over-the-top for what i need!!!