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jcdenton wrote:It records in 4:2:0, the same as PAL miniDV.
Actually, PAL MiniDV, if it's anything like NTSC MiniDV, records 4:1:1. The new HDV cameras do record 4:2:0 though; you are correct in that.
Erm... yeah...
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I just know the nice man that owns like half of Santa Ana. ;)
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Epsilon... When you get going on ur insanely bonkers quest for movie-making-madness...


Hire me:D it's the kind of insanity I tend 2 go in 4
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Epsilon wrote:Sony CineLine HD cameras. Right now they're around $175k or so.
Do you mean the CineAlta?
One thing to keep in mind as an option is that the CineAlta F900 HD camera is more common these days and quite rentable in many major metro areas. I know in some areas in can be rented for $2000 per day including lens and supporting gear.

The killer is getting the files on your computer.
Files run over 100Meg per second, and if you don't capture direct to disk, you're going to have to pay someone a pile of money to transfer shots from tape to disk for you.

Good luck
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sony do a cheaper hd model dont they?
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I got my eye on the new JVC HD100
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I've got my eye on the Panasonic HVX200.
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Epsilon wrote:I have HD! Muahaha!
Which camera, if I may ask? The camera store down the street from our house can't keep the Sony HD camcorders on their shelves, they're incredibly popular.
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Caveman wrote:Epsilon... When you get going on ur insanely bonkers quest for movie-making-madness...
Good question! I am a little insane from time to time. It's too bad I haven't gotten any of the recent films I've worked on up online yet. You guys would love them dearly.

Clarence, I have a Sony HDV-FX1.
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how much was that?
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They are $3699 (american), but they have a lower end model, which is $1999.
Epsilon wrote:
It's too bad I haven't gotten any of the recent films I've worked on up online yet. You guys would love them dearly.

Clarence, I have a Sony HDV-FX1.
I was wondering why I haven't seen one film by you on here... :)
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That lower end model you're talking about is the Sony HDR-HC1. It has 1 1/3" CMOS chip instead of a CCD. I downloaded some movie clips that the Sony HDR-HC1 recorded in HDV mode, and the video quality looks awesome! And the good news is that I might get it for Christmas.
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So... the problem is that the editing programs arnt ready for HDV? Because I'm looking to get a higher quality camera, and the HD looks to be the best on the market, but i don't want to get it if it doesnt show up to be as great as it is said to be. Is it the editing programs that lower the quality or that bandwidth arnt large enough to transport that much quality without losing any?
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Get "Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5." Then go to http://www.adobe.com and download the Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1 Update. It's pretty much a HDV plug in. It lets you edit HDV with Premiere Pro. Then if you want, you can get Cineform Aspect 3.3 for Premiere Pro. It's another plug in that lets you edit HDV in real time. You use Cineform Aspect HDV codec to convert the raw HDV file format .mt2 to a AVI. I converted a raw HDV .m2t file from the internet and converted it, and it looked exactly the same. No picture quality loss at all. So you edit in that format in Premiere Pro, then when you export the movie, you can export it back to .m2t, MPEG 2, WMV-HD, ect... When I get my Sony HDR-HC1 (I hope), this is most likely how I'm going to edit.
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Slimdog55, where did you find those clips of the HC1? I'd like to see them.
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http://www.xtream.ne.jp/index.php?optio ... e&Itemid=1

It's In Japenesse with some English translations. You click Sign Up/Register on the left of the website. Pick a User Name/Password, give them your E-Mail address. They E-Mail a message that is in total Japenese. You just click on the top link in the E-Mail, and then sign in at the site. Go to
http://www.xtream.ne.jp/component/optio ... /Itemid,68 after you're all logged in.

When you download a ".m2t" file (Raw, uncompressed HDV file) just rename the ".m2t" file extension to a ".mpg" file extension and it will be a MPEG 2 File. If it doesn't play normally, or all slow and choppy, your computer is most likely not powerful enough to play the 1080i HDV file. You can convert the file to another MPEG 2 with something like TMPGEnc Encoder to view the file, but it will be 8Mbps Maximum. (The orininal is 25Mbps.) So it will be Standard Definition, but it still looks really good.
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Its amazing that you found this. Through the Japaneze website and all haha. I havent gotten an e-mail yet. Maybe it takes a little while.
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The guy was posting at http://www.HDVinfo.net forum, so I went on the site and clicked on a few links, signed up, went to the download page, and started downloading all of the clips. Yeah, I didn't get my E-Mail right away. It takes some time.
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imagine the fx possibilities... you could do all sorts of stuff with that extra resolution and shrink it to normal DV size and it would still be acceptable and look great... this is going to be really cool when it becomes cheaper
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do you use hdv tapes?
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Clarence wrote:I was wondering why I haven't seen one film by you on here... :)
I'll get one online by next week. ;)
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windog wrote:do you use hdv tapes?
You can use regular MiniDV tapes. But Sony made a HDV tape that is a MiniDV tape, but made better so there will be less of a chance of a dropout. It's like $15 for 1 of these.
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To rename/convert the m2t file extension to a mpeg 2 do you need a program? I'm not sure how to do that.
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Nevermind i found a media player that can play it.
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I'll tell you anyway. :D Let's say the file name is "hdr-hc1footage1.m2t". Right click on the file, select "Rename," rename it to "hdr-hc1footage1.mpg". It will turn into a MPEG 2 file. It's that easy. No programs required.
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